Erroneous Interpretation

I recently came across a website that implied that Jesus did not coexist with Christ.
Upon reviewing their site, they quote the Spirit of Prophecy and uphold Adventist health principles, but something to the left of the site caught my eye.

http://www.worldslastchance.com/biblestudies_godhead.php
read in Full the Article entitled: "Not the Trinity Nor 3 gods but One God"

Then review the article: "Aspects of the divine begetting"

In response to what I found to be errors in their interpretation of the Bible, I submitted the following message:


I find the Short Studies Area concerning 3 God's to overlook some vital verses in the Bible which reveals there are indeed 3 entities that comprise the trinity God head and hence one God. One in purpose, thinking, nature and will. God, in three persons.
The Name, and title GOD refers to three specific beings. The Bible is clear on this: Back in creation, Genesis Chapter 1:26, (I believe that God has this in the early part of scripture, so we can plainly see)

"And God said let US make man in our image, after OUR own likeness..."

Can angels create? No. God couldn't have been speaking to the animals here either. The three, the Trinity, God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Ghost, were in agreement that THEY should create mankind in THEIR (plural possessive) image.

When we take a look at another verse in the Bible in the New Testament, we can again see that there are indeed 3 beings involved in the ministry of the supreme Trinity.

In addition based on the Genesis account, we cannot conclude that Jesus was not co-existent with God the Father. There were three in the beginning of time.
Christ IS coexistent with Jehovah God, another name by which God the Father is referenced. Otherwise, please explain where Christ ascended up into after He was resurrected. Who sent Gabriel down to call Him forth? and to where?
Clearly, God the Father, as the Bible states, sent the angel down to call Jesus to return into Heaven. This is why He was resurrected. Christ had to return to heaven from where He came...being that He , Christ was a part of the Trinity in the beginning of time and was sent to earth to live, minister and die. His work was complete in earth. He had to now return to heaven (to co exist):

St. John 20:16-17 (Mary has come on the 1st day of the week to Jesus' tomb, believing that someone had removed Jesus' body. When Jesus reveals himself to her, He also admonished her not to touch Him, because He had not yet ascended to His Father.
An ascention to heaven to god the Father implies that at some point in time, Jesus would have to co-exist with God the Father. The prefix "co" simply means "with" to exist with. It is clear that Christ was with the Father in the beginning (Creation) and had to return to heaven at the end of His earthly ministry.

But let us see who the Bible identifies these three as, as I started to previously:

Luke 3:21 and 22 reads: Now when all the people were baptized, it came to pass, that Jesus also being baptized, and praying, the heaven was opened,
and the holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said , Thou art my beloved Son, in thee I am well pleased."

In this passage of scripture we see plainly that there are 3 entities: God the Son, who was baptized,
God the Father Whose voice was heard from Heaven, and God the holy Spirit Who descended in the form of a dove.

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http://www.worldslastchance.com/biblestudies_godhead.php
"Conclusion: God passed unto His only begotten son, unconditional life in Himself. As the baby becomes independent of the mother once he is born, Christ became self-existent once He was begotten of the Father. Self-existence was inherent in His birth. In addition to self existence, the son received from His Father His very character [goodness], and thus His express image. There was nothing that the Father had which was not passed unto the His only begotten Son. Even the very Spirit of God, the Holy Spirit, is shared by His Son. Christ naturally inherited the name of His Father [God]. Christ was not, however, co-existent with His Father, being the Son."
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The very last bit of your conclusion is erroneous based on the scripture I provided. Christ was coexistent with the Father from the very beginning.

To deny Christ's co-existence with the Father denies his divinity.
Jesus Christ created this world after a decision was made amongst the THREE to:
"Let US make man..."

John 1:1-4
In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God.
The same, was in the beginning with God.
All things were made by him; and without him was not anything made that was made.
in him was life and the life was the life of men.
Please don't equate the Creator to that of a mere man by stating that Christ was not coexistent with the Father.
Just because we messed up by sinning and He decided to take the time to come to earth from his heavenly home where He was coexisting with God the Father and the Spirit and come and dies for our sins....don't take that small period of time He spent on earth to save us from our sins to say that b/c he was on earth and no longer in heaven, existing here, negates scriptural proof that he didn't coexist with the Father from the very beginning of time. Jesus planned to come. Planned to die and then return to co -exist once again with his Father and His Spirit.

Thanks for your consideration and review.

Any other interpretations?

Liars

When I think of the word "abomination" I think of something that is banished or evil. What comes to mind are those huge monsters from that book Where the Wild Things Are.
What also comes to mind is sodomy, which the Lord had to destroy Sodom and Ghomorra over, and lying.

The Bible tells us that lying lips are an abomination unto the Lord.
Why? Can't I tell a little white lie? What if the lie isn't hurting anyone?
Well we know from scripture tha Lucifer was once a bright angel, second in power after the trinity. He is the father of lies, meaning, he created them. Anyone who tells lies isa liar and is the son or daughter of the devil.
Jesus does not identify with liars. He does not call them His own. And the Bible is also clear on which types of people will be consumed with hell fire. And liars are right up there.

If you are in arelationship with someone who lies, get out!
I've had to break business ties with people, because I have found them to be lying, dishonest, untruthful and canniving. And I'm not talking about outside people. People who identify themselves as SDA, are among the best liars around.
Lying of any kind hurts the union, whatever that union may be. If you have abusiness partner who is a perpetual liar, break away from them.
Certainly you can minister to and pray for them, but it is imperative not to go beyond that. People are known by hte friends that they keep. Would you want people to associate you with a liar?

Christ needs an honest tongue and a pure soul for His kingdom? Will you be counted?

A Little Revelation: Distractions

Today my 1 year oldson was busy opening a closing cupboards. he loves the swinging mechanism, it's just all so fascinating to him. Unfortunately he closed his litle thumb in the door, and althoug nothing major,was quite an experience for him.
HE stopped, startled and began to cry.
I quickly picked him up and almost as if the words were pouring into my head and spilling out of my mouth on its own, I said to him:
"Aww it's okay, just because you got hurt, doesn't mean you can't try again.
You can always try again."

This is true for anyone who has tried to start a business but has failed over and over again.
Perhaps you are a struggling business, and ve been taken advantage of. Maybe you're divorced because of ireconcilable differences. Perhaps yo've been hurt in some form of family, personal or financial relationship or venture." Like God has helped me to understand, it's okay to get hurt. Don't let the hurt paralyze you. You can't stop . You can slow down, but never stop. Don't stop. Stopping allows paralysis to set it. And when you're frozen, you're useless to tose around you but most of all yourself and ultimately God. When you let circumstances define you, you allow yourself to go nowhere in life. YOU define your circumstance.

Come on people, i've been hurt and cheated out of so many things. If I were to to name the people that owe me money or cheated me out of a financial collaboration, This blog would go on for days. I have friends that have been called all sorts of vile names, and been judged based on how they look. These are injustices that hurt, but they cannot allow any of us to stay atill.
And while we stay still, time pass us by? No way. Jesus is coming soon, and these inconveniences are mere distractions.
You're boss fired you? Distraction
Your kids don't listen? Distraction!
Wife a hot mess? It's a distraction!
Your husband not the man you thought he was?
People owe you money?
Friend slept with your man?
Your man slept with your friend?
Church people talking about you? More distractions.
And while we're at it, let's get a bus to drive by you and drench you in a muddy mess.
Distractions come in so many forms. The devil knows what pushes our buttons and will use distractions to keep us from entering into heaven. Don't let the devil distract you. Keep focused on God, and try again, try another open door, I kissed my son's thumb and held him close. God is your father and wants to hold you close and nurse your hurt. He will comfort you. Let Him. Butalways try again..this time wiser, stronger, and spiritually wealthier. This time, try again, in whatever venture you sought out to do, in Jesus' Name.